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Jim Weatherbie
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11/6/2007 | posted: 11/6/2007 at 2:27:17 PM ET
Are there various keys that a piano or guitar would be required to play in to accompany clarinets and saxophones? Are the horns limited to playing in a particular key? Can everyone sit down with the same piece of sheet music?
One more question please. How does one go about learning band music orchestration? I would like to learn how to assemble a group of backyard musicians to produce a master piece.
Respectfully, Jim Weathebie
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9/27/2007 | posted: 11/7/2007 at 8:31:13 AM ET
A horn section is only limited to what key they can play in by the ability of the musicians. Most horn players are comfortable in flat keys more so than sharp keys. Good keys for horn players include Bb Concert, Eb Concert, F concert, and, depending on the players, G or D Concert. Now, if you have the right horn section, they can play in whatever key you want them to.
Orchestration can be difficult to grasp for someone just starting out. The most confusing thing is probably the transpositions. For example, if the piano plays a C, a trumpet, clarinet, or tenor sax must play a D, and an alto or bari sax must play an A in order for the notes to match up. The first thing you must know is that piano, guitar, bass guitar, trombone, flute, and tuba are all concert instruments that do not transpose. If you play a C on those instruments, you will hear a C. Clarinet, trumpet, and tenor saxophone are Bb instruments. If you play a C on those instruments you will hear a Bb. Alto Saxophone and bari saxophone are Eb instruments. If you play a C on those instruments, you will hear an Eb.
My suggestion is to take a course at a local college in orchestration, or have a musician you trust teach it to you face to face. This is the most detailed description I can give you in a forum.
Good luck and feel free to post or e-mail me if you have anymore questions!
| Jim Weatherbie
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11/6/2007 | posted: 11/7/2007 at 11:40:26 AM ET
Thank You very much for the good advice. I will try and enroll at a local school to learn about music. Learning any other way might be "the blind leading the blind"
Question: Are there any web sites or books available to help me with understanding "rhythm's?" I have difficulty grasping written rhythmn's such as a "samba clave" are there any old cliche's such as "Johnny did the boogie woogie, or shave and a haircut two bits" that might help to understand written rhythmn's? Or is your first advice still the best bet? Go where music is understood, studied and taught?
Respectfully, Jim Weatherbie
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9/27/2007 | posted: 11/7/2007 at 2:31:47 PM ET
My advice still stands on learning from educated teachers. The best way to understand rhythms is to start simple and work towards more complex. Start by clapping and counting simple rhythms. Practice them over and over again. Gradually add more complex rhythms.
Here is a website that I found just through some quick browsing on the internet that might help you:
http://www.daniellaberge.net/music/rhythm/rhythm1.htm
Good luck!
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